Friday
Apr172009
The Obama Deception
Friday, April 17, 2009 at 11:45
So I'm not on the cutting edge on this movie or anything. It's been out for at least a month. It's just that I finally watched it last night. Before I get started, here is a link. The Obama Deception. If that doesn't work, you can go to Prison Planet and find it on there.
First, let's discuss Alex Jones. From my impression of him he is a person who would be classified as a conspiracy theorist. That's not a bad thing in and of itself. However, many conspiracy theorists view everything as a conspiracy. He has produced several movies/videos criticizing the Government and the how the Bilderberg Group is the real power behind the governments of the world. Jones currently has a daily radio program carried on 60 stations.
Now for the movie. Take it with a grain of salt. Just like many of Michael Moore's movies (and other movies like his and Jones'), Jones does an excellent job of pulling you in to try to sway you to his way of thinking. It is slickly produced, has sufficiently eerie music, and a haunting voice over.
With movies such as this, I tend to watch them in similar ways. The first 1/4 to 1/3 I seem to get sucked into the producer's/director's world. Normally they make compelling arguments, ask open-ended questions, and play on your emotions. Once I get past that, my BS meter starts peaking. I'm not saying that this movie, or other movies I've seen like it are complete BS, but the skeptic in me starts waking up. From then on I tend to by critical of the information being presented. Not that I dispute the validity of it, but I see that it could be presented from a skewed perspective.
This movie also takes a blog post I did back in November a lot farther. Let me explain that. It doesn't take my post directly, but it warns of Obama having a similar effect to that other "Cult of Personalty" leaders. While I make a brief mention of it, Jones hold nothing back from saying that Obama very likely will become that. Here is a link to my blog post I Voted.
The main position in The Obama Deception is that the Bilderberg Group is taking the final steps of establishing the New World Order that George H. W. Bush (Bush I as some people say) openly talked about forming. It also talks about the establishment of a "Bank of the World," and taxes on everything. It also talks about some very scary things such as FEMA camps to send protesters and losing more of our civil liberties.
Most of what is talked about has some basis in fact. Some more than others. And some, in my opinion, are distortions of the truth. Things like the Bilderberg Group, the Council of Foreign Affairs, the desire for a world currency, combining sovereignty, all exist in some form. Europe is a testing ground for many of these ideas. NAFTA has been accused of being a pre-cursor of a North American Union. And recently China has called for a Global Currency. So there are people, organizations, and governments looking at advancing these ideas.
The movie also describes how the Federal Reserve is not a Federal agency. This is very true. It is a Central Bank and our founders were very wary of establishing any kind of Central Bank. It shows one of Jones' protests outside of the Federal Reserve office in Dallas, TX. For those of you that never knew the Fed wasn't really Federal, see this.
So what is my opinion of the movie itself. It's scary if it's 100% true. But it was produced to get that reaction. I believe that it correctly describes much of what has been happening in relation to the U.S. Election and how Obama has reneged on some of his promises. And Jones isn't some bitter Republican that is just bashing Obama. He has done a lot of Bush bashing. I'm sure there will be more Obama bashing in the years to come.
What really concerns me is that we are, as a nation, and as a global society, slowly progressing towards many of these unified ideas. The global economy is in shambles, and the bankers (or banksters as they were called in the movie and elsewhere) are the ones proclaiming they have the answer. Forget that they were the ones minding the store when everything collapsed.
There is also an element of what is known as an Economic Hitman. This references a book I recently read called Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins. The part of the film that describes the struggle between the USA and China in Africa is very similar to what is described in Perkins' book. And I can see Africa becoming the next place war is waged.
Huh? Another war? Maybe. A real war, not like the Iraqi war. Though I don't see something like a World War happening. The Major Industrialized Countries of the world do not want to see war inside their borders. So they use a poor country(ies) as their place to wage war against each other. They don't have to worry about rebuilding their own infrastructure. But they can offer to build another country's for a price.
Finally, the film also briefly advances the conspiracy theory that the 9/11 attacks were staged by the Military-Industrial Complex to enact a Police State. This is something that I do not believe in. I won't go into depth of what I believe other than to say that those attacks were our Intelligence Community having a huge failure and the country having a knee jerk reaction resulting in the Patriot Act.
Throughout the film Jones asks the viewer to lookup the claims for themselves. And if you look in the right way, you will find plenty to support his claims. Also, if you look closely at the film, many of the news sources used to back up his claims are other websites or publications that are also ran by conspiracy theorists. So take that for what it is.
I haven't done extensive research into the claims. Why? Because I've already researched much of what was already talked about prior to the film. Some of the connections suggested or claims presented is new to me, but I can see where these connections can be made or understand the basis for the claims. Again, I don't take this film for being 100% accurate, however, it does raise some very valid concerns as to how our Government is being ran by both parties and forces outside of Government. Watch it and make up your own mind.
Marz
First, let's discuss Alex Jones. From my impression of him he is a person who would be classified as a conspiracy theorist. That's not a bad thing in and of itself. However, many conspiracy theorists view everything as a conspiracy. He has produced several movies/videos criticizing the Government and the how the Bilderberg Group is the real power behind the governments of the world. Jones currently has a daily radio program carried on 60 stations.
Now for the movie. Take it with a grain of salt. Just like many of Michael Moore's movies (and other movies like his and Jones'), Jones does an excellent job of pulling you in to try to sway you to his way of thinking. It is slickly produced, has sufficiently eerie music, and a haunting voice over.
With movies such as this, I tend to watch them in similar ways. The first 1/4 to 1/3 I seem to get sucked into the producer's/director's world. Normally they make compelling arguments, ask open-ended questions, and play on your emotions. Once I get past that, my BS meter starts peaking. I'm not saying that this movie, or other movies I've seen like it are complete BS, but the skeptic in me starts waking up. From then on I tend to by critical of the information being presented. Not that I dispute the validity of it, but I see that it could be presented from a skewed perspective.
This movie also takes a blog post I did back in November a lot farther. Let me explain that. It doesn't take my post directly, but it warns of Obama having a similar effect to that other "Cult of Personalty" leaders. While I make a brief mention of it, Jones hold nothing back from saying that Obama very likely will become that. Here is a link to my blog post I Voted.
The main position in The Obama Deception is that the Bilderberg Group is taking the final steps of establishing the New World Order that George H. W. Bush (Bush I as some people say) openly talked about forming. It also talks about the establishment of a "Bank of the World," and taxes on everything. It also talks about some very scary things such as FEMA camps to send protesters and losing more of our civil liberties.
Most of what is talked about has some basis in fact. Some more than others. And some, in my opinion, are distortions of the truth. Things like the Bilderberg Group, the Council of Foreign Affairs, the desire for a world currency, combining sovereignty, all exist in some form. Europe is a testing ground for many of these ideas. NAFTA has been accused of being a pre-cursor of a North American Union. And recently China has called for a Global Currency. So there are people, organizations, and governments looking at advancing these ideas.
The movie also describes how the Federal Reserve is not a Federal agency. This is very true. It is a Central Bank and our founders were very wary of establishing any kind of Central Bank. It shows one of Jones' protests outside of the Federal Reserve office in Dallas, TX. For those of you that never knew the Fed wasn't really Federal, see this.
So what is my opinion of the movie itself. It's scary if it's 100% true. But it was produced to get that reaction. I believe that it correctly describes much of what has been happening in relation to the U.S. Election and how Obama has reneged on some of his promises. And Jones isn't some bitter Republican that is just bashing Obama. He has done a lot of Bush bashing. I'm sure there will be more Obama bashing in the years to come.
What really concerns me is that we are, as a nation, and as a global society, slowly progressing towards many of these unified ideas. The global economy is in shambles, and the bankers (or banksters as they were called in the movie and elsewhere) are the ones proclaiming they have the answer. Forget that they were the ones minding the store when everything collapsed.
There is also an element of what is known as an Economic Hitman. This references a book I recently read called Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins. The part of the film that describes the struggle between the USA and China in Africa is very similar to what is described in Perkins' book. And I can see Africa becoming the next place war is waged.
Huh? Another war? Maybe. A real war, not like the Iraqi war. Though I don't see something like a World War happening. The Major Industrialized Countries of the world do not want to see war inside their borders. So they use a poor country(ies) as their place to wage war against each other. They don't have to worry about rebuilding their own infrastructure. But they can offer to build another country's for a price.
Finally, the film also briefly advances the conspiracy theory that the 9/11 attacks were staged by the Military-Industrial Complex to enact a Police State. This is something that I do not believe in. I won't go into depth of what I believe other than to say that those attacks were our Intelligence Community having a huge failure and the country having a knee jerk reaction resulting in the Patriot Act.
Throughout the film Jones asks the viewer to lookup the claims for themselves. And if you look in the right way, you will find plenty to support his claims. Also, if you look closely at the film, many of the news sources used to back up his claims are other websites or publications that are also ran by conspiracy theorists. So take that for what it is.
I haven't done extensive research into the claims. Why? Because I've already researched much of what was already talked about prior to the film. Some of the connections suggested or claims presented is new to me, but I can see where these connections can be made or understand the basis for the claims. Again, I don't take this film for being 100% accurate, however, it does raise some very valid concerns as to how our Government is being ran by both parties and forces outside of Government. Watch it and make up your own mind.
Marz
Reader Comments (4)
Mark, I appreciate your commentary on this one. However, I have to respectfully disagree with your characterization of the banks. The market forces of the banking industry were manipulated by two main things:
1. The Community Reinvestment Act; and,
2. The insertion of FNMA and Freddie Mac into the mix.
The CRA, though it has been on the books for quite some time, never had any real teeth until about 10 years ago when various groups, most notably the Plaintiffs' bar and the social engineering crowd took some interest in attempting to force banks to loan to "communities" rather than individuals. So, banks were faced with the risk of huge verdicts and/or negative PR if they didn't relax lending standards and lend to those who in a pure market, would not have received money. Enter Fannie and Freddie. They started backing these CRA loans, and any other sub-prime loans at the behest of the vote-buyers in D.C. Until then, banks underwrote sub-prime loans to a much lower degree. With a backstop, the banks started loaning without regard to creditworthiness. This was fine so long as property values continued to increase - a house of cards waiting for the bubble to burst. The funny thing is, those banks which stayed out of this artificial market were killed in the capital market. Conservative banks had below market returns on their stock b/c they weren't lending enough and they were eventually eaten - resulting in a near oligopoly. When the market tanked, the large banks went with it - and most of the liquidity as well.
Had the market been allowed to work without the social engineering, the result would have been a much slower run-up of property values b/c there wouldn't have been near as much lending and the correction would have been much less severe. This recession is about government policy, not the banking industry nor the Federal Reserve, IMHO.
Hi, Trey,
Thanks for the comments. The information you provided is really interesting. Something that either I've missed during all the ad nauseam coverage a few months ago, or never brought up. Government meddling in the affairs of the bankers is surely a recipe for disaster. Yes, in our current system, there needs to be some kind of government involvement, but the government forcing them to do something with such a potentially disastrous outcome is appalling. I probably should have included the government in that part. I was probably even thinking it, but didn't express that.
Thanks again for the comments. They are certainly welcome.
Marz
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